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   macca

   Aug 10, 2016 at 7:08 am

   tigershark ??…….they were all same length irons….nothing new:)

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   mrpriceisright

   Jun 21, 2016 at 10:50 am

   Like the guy, like the swing., the clubs – well not exactly a thing of beauty but obviously he and Edel have tinkered with the clubs and the results so far are pretty impressive. What is so refreshing is that he is obviously a guy who, like a Hogan or Norman, thinks things through from first principles (perhaps scientific) and does things his own way. He would be the first to admit he has some things to learn and has said so. Its been great to watch him playing head to head in major competition with the top 5 or so and matching them stroke for stroke. As a single plane golfer for 15+ yrs myself, if the SLI’s become available retail, I would be looking to try em.

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   James

   Mar 23, 2016 at 2:02 pm

   For those who are interested, here’s a great (albeit a bit lengthy) article on the story behind DeChambeau and how his swing and his single length clubs came to be: http://www.golf.com/tour-and-news/bryson-dechambeau-custom-clubmaker-and-teaching-pro-might-be-start-golfing-revolution

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   Steve

   Mar 19, 2016 at 1:09 am

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLGSlKIRhJo this link shows comparison of Moe Norman and Bryson D.

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   James

   Mar 17, 2016 at 12:19 pm

   To all of you who are talking crap about his setup and how single length irons are unconventional and will not work for most people or will never catch on at retail, let me point this out. Back at the turn of the century, all iron sets actually WERE the same length! Only lofts differed. Around that same time, the manufacturers of golf clubs made some misguided decisions about how golf clubs should be made – using purely theory and trial & error, since they lacked the technology at the time to thoroughly test those theories – and that is how we have the progressive length sets of today. And the reason why major companies aren’t making same length clubs now – even though they have the ability and technology to prove that they can help most golfers, especially new ones, play better – is because millions (probably more like BILLIONS) of irons over the last century have been made with progressive lengths. Therefore, the modern golf psyche is so deeply entrenched in the idea that irons have to all be different lengths, that no major manufacturer is willing to take the risk at trying to change the public perception and introduce something which could potentially reshape the entire golf industry. Even though the science supports same length clubs, we’re still stuck where we are because of a mix of stubborn tradition and a business risk that few will take on.

   However, there are currently 2 component companies out there who sell single length iron heads – ValueGolf (Pinkhawks) and Wishon Golf (Sterlings) – and they are both sold out and backordered through June! There is also a company called 1irongolf who has been selling single length clubs for over a decade, but they only reason they aren’t sold out is because the design is severely outdated (as is their website), they look hideous, and they are way overpriced. These small companies are able to take the risk of making small batches of heads, because unlike the major OEM’s they don’t need to put millions of dollars into advertising, consumer education, distributing the products through retail chains, education retailers, etc, etc. The overhead is very low, so greater risks can be taken. And in this case the risk is paying off in spades since they are all experiencing tremendous success.

   And mark my words – if Bryson sees even a HINT of success on tour, within a year one or more of the major OEM’s will come out with a single length iron set. Probably Cobra if they’re the ones who are going to be sponsoring him. I bet several companies have already designed and tested single length models, they are just waiting to pull the trigger to bring them to market. And as soon the first major OEM puts big bucks into a marketing campaign for single length clubs, we could see the start of a change of the future of golf equipment. It would be the first MAJOR change to the game of golf in a long time, and it could very easily be the beginning of a revolution.

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     Leon

     Mar 17, 2016 at 8:41 pm

     Well said. Completely agreed

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     S

     Mar 18, 2016 at 8:36 am

     You make many valid points. However, in my experience, working for a major OEM for some time and now at a Top 100 Club Fitting Facility, here is what I have found.
     1- The golf ball has changed golf. Most had little problem getting the ball up in the air with their long irons. Today’s golf ball requires more head speed to achieve similar heights with a long iron.
     2- As a 5’8 guy with 95 mph head speed with a 7 iron, I was enamored with the idea of one length.
     3- From PW-6i, I had no problem achieving correct gap distance and peak heights. 4 and 5 irons, at 97 mph head speed, launched lower and never achieved ball flight needed to stop on firm greens. Bryson is swing his 7i at over 100 mph!
     4- Most amateurs would benefit from 2 length or even 3 lengths: Wedges, 9i – 6i and 5i -3i.

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       Aaron

       Mar 18, 2016 at 10:18 am

       Thank you! All of you that are saying that this single length concept will “take off” in the coming years, my only question would be what was stopping it before? Bryson is rehashing this discussion for all of us because of his success. It is not like this hasn’t been thought of before or tried before… With so many technological advancements in golf over the past 25 years all spawned from scientific principles and data, if single length design promoted a significant advantage from that standpoint it would have been promoted and developed by one of the major OEM’s on that very platform. The fact that brilliant engineers and club manufacturers did not invest in it from a technological perspective tells me that there is not significant reason to do so. Furthermore on that point with the way that professional golfers meticulously practice and hone their swings with hours of science based video training and analysis of every minutia in the data from the impact and flight of the ball, why then have we not seen a multitude of PRO’s utilizing the single length iron system?? These guys get paid A LOT of money to win golf tournaments and I highly doubt that they would stay with “conventional” sets simply due to “stubborn tradition”. We have all seen the methodical approach to the game that Tiger has taken with swing changes, or how Phil will tinker with his equipment to improve his game. Do you really think that if single length sets would markedly improve their games that they wouldn’t do it?? We should have seen more than one player in the last 30+ years take this approach if it is indeed a superior method.

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         Jim Delani

         Mar 19, 2016 at 5:18 pm

         Your claim that “brilliant engineers and club manufacturers did not invest in it from a technological perspective” is very misleading. Many engineers & scientist have enthusiastically endorsed the idea from a technological perspective, including some who have worked for major OEM’s.
         All of the research I have reviewed has supported ALL of the improved consistency, effectiveness, and efficiency claims of the single-length club advocates {identical swing plane, moment of inertia, & club head speed achieved as a RESULT of identical shafts (length, weight, stiffness, & kick-point), and identical club heads (lie-angle, head-weight) except for lofts (4 degrees ~ 12 yards)}. Unfortunately for us (golfers & consumers), but fortunately for investors & major OEM staff, engineers & scientists do NOT make business/investment decisions…
         The answer to your excellent question “what was stopping it before”, is actually contained in your misleading claim…the obstacle was never the engineers or scientist (who were trying to help us!); it was always the club manufacturers that refused to invest in this idea! BUT WHY?
         1) It is easier and more cost-effective to mass produce a set of irons that have a standard length progression (0.5″) and a standard weight progression (7 gm). This has been true since they “progressed” from custom fitted single length hickory shafts to steel and then to graphite.
         2) With the mass produced irons there will always be 1 or 2 irons in an “off the rack” set of irons that actually “FIT” any consumer, regardless of height, weight, body mass, etc. (this is why we all have our favorite iron) NOTE: Your “favorite” iron is most likely the only one that fits you and “should” be the model for all of your irons (just like Bryson!)
         3) Not only would properly fitted single-length irons revolutionize golf, it would “Crush” the 6-month/1-year/18-month/2-year new club introduction cycle the OEM manufacturers have become addicted to…
         If this single-length iron concept was combined with the new Fort Worth company’s / Bryson DeChambeau’s True Loft vs some arbitrary iron number designation we could eliminate ALL of the OEM BS claims…(our #6 iron with #4 iron loft beats your #6 iron with a #5 iron loft…)
         Respectfully submitted,
         Jim Delani
         PS – One more reason NOT to trust the OEM manufacturers… Have you seen the new TMag M2 iron commercial with Jason Day? He can hit one of their irons farther than MOST of us can hit a DRIVER, yet the claim is that “this will help most amateurs”… Really? REALLY? Then why do I need either the M1 or M2 driver, and why the hell aren’t YOU playing with them????

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           Seve

           Mar 21, 2016 at 9:33 am

           You are so right on so many accounts.

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           Aaron

           Mar 21, 2016 at 11:15 am

           I do think that there are a lot of advantages to the single length system. I am not against the concept in any way. I do contest some of your points however… You claim that conventional sets makes production easier and more cost effective? I can’t buy into that. It would make WAY more sense that SLI sets would be easier and more cost effective to produce. Instead of significantly different molds for the heads because of the lie angle and face progression changes you are removing a variable of lie angle. Then instead of progressive length shafts you can stock up on one shaft type (seven iron length, parallel or taper tip, just changing brand and flex). These two factors seem much easier for production and assembly. And you would reduce the number of quality control checks as well due to the reduced number of variables. The other portion of your argument (btw I really enjoyed your perspective and well stated position) dealt with OEM’s not allowing their engineers to drive the manufacturing decisions, I agree to a point. I think that they provide a multitude of ideas to the various companies main decision makers and they in turn decide which one’s actually go to production. This is also in combination with input from the tour players. As has been stated, they dramatically impact what gets sold. This point is where I have yet to hear a good argument… If the SLI system is in fact more effective, consistent, etc… Why have we not seen MANY pros use it? Hell, even try it?! Are we to believe that all the guys and gals trying to play this game for a living are so blinded by the OEM’s manufacturing choices that they refuse to question them or force them to give them what they want?? That’s the part I can’t get around because all of us on here know all too well how nutty we golfers are and we will do/try anything that will perhaps improve our scoring. If single length sets could take someone trying to make it on tour and improve their GIR percentage by even a modest amount they would be doing it! No amount of ribbing by other players, or suggestion from their respective OEM sponsor would dis-sway them from doing something that would allow them to climb the ranks, contend more often, and win more tournaments! That cannot possibly be disputed as we see so often guys trying different putters, putting strokes, swing methods and on and on… The old adage has always been “play with what works.” So again I ask, why have we not seen MANY tour players use or try this?

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         Jim Delani

         Mar 19, 2016 at 6:47 pm

         I love this concept and fully endorse the theoretical science behind it!!! I have done considerable research into the single length iron concept and believe that this should be the future of golf. Yes, this would impact the OEM’s bottom line (and preclude 6 month/12 month/18 month production cycles — a definite PLUS in my books!), but this would also dramatically improve average golf scores and would definitely be “for the good of the game”, unlike some of the recent decisions by the USGA and R&A clowns…
         I know it sounds “crazy” to most of you, but single-length irons, that have Identical Shafts (length, weight, stiffness & kickpoint), and club heads with identical weights and lie angles (but differing lofts), would enable us all to use the exact same swing with all of our irons – Same setup; Same alignment; Same backswing; Same downswing; Same plane for shaft/shoulder/arms/hands; Same downswing impact planer, Same release point, Same Kinetic Energy, Same Momentum (both Angular & Linear), Same Moment of Inertia…basically all of the SAME linear & rotational forces throughout the swing… Bottom Line: Practicing with a #7 iron (or your favorite iron) would be as equally productive as practicing with ANY other iron…
         My only complaint is the continued insistence on the arbitrary 4 degree gap (~12 yards) between clubs – even less with the longer irons. What is so “wonderful” about a 12 yard gap? And, WAIT_FOR_IT… most professionals use a 6 degree gap (6 degrees = 18 yards) in their wedges (48-54-60)… Augusta National scorecards lists yardages in 5 yard intervals…So why don’t we use 10 or 15 yard gaps as our standard? (15 yards = 5 degrees)
         WAIT WHAT??? Club manufactures expect us to be able to play with a 3 degree gap in our long irons (the hardest clubs to hit), with a 4 degree gap with the mid irons, but then use a 6 degree gap in our wedges (like the PRO’s)!
         I am ashamed to admit this, but I not quite good enough to benefit from “THEIR” recommendations (at either end…). I also have a touch of “OCD” (everybody has a little “Monk” in them…) So here is a slightly different (aka crazy) idea…why not 5 degree gaps between ALL clubs? Why not combine the advantages of this “Single Length Iron” concept with the “Ben Hogan / Fort Worth Iron” concept and create a set of irons that ALL HAVE THE SAME WEIGHT AND LIE ANGLE AND vary in lofts from 20 degrees to 60 degrees?

         The only aspect that needs to be customized would be lie angle and shaft length…Even “Custom Fitting” would be greatly simplified…

         Sounds like this could be a Win-Win…

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           SteveID

           Mar 20, 2016 at 1:33 am

           Oh… Jim Delani endorses it! Now I’m bought in!

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             Jim Delani

             Mar 21, 2016 at 3:35 pm

             LoL! SteveID – Good call with the “endorsement” – I probably should have omitted the entire first sentence… Regardless, my enthusiasm for this concept is genuine and results from how consistently it is supported by STEM, in golf specific research (Homer Kelly’s TGM, The Physics of Golf, etc.), and even in Systems Engineering and Total Quality Management. I would gladly give up “most” of my current iron sets (I’m kind of a club whore) for a set of single length Ben Hogan style irons…

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           Seve

           Mar 21, 2016 at 9:36 am

           I really like the idea of combining the Hogan loft system with single length. Total win-win.

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         James

         Mar 20, 2016 at 7:58 pm

         Do you really think a pro golfer, who has been playing for 20-30-40 years, is going to take the time/energy/risk to relearn their entire game around single length set of irons? Even if some company told them that it would help their game? I highly doubt it. They already play so well with traditional irons, and their muscle memory and mental game is already conditioned to a traditional set of irons, and the effort required for the change would be tremendous – and could easily ruin their career if the transition was a failure. But when new golfers start learning to play golf with single length irons, then turn pro and continue to use them and win tournaments with them, just like what Bryson is doing right now, this is what it will take for single length irons to finally become accepted and validated by the golfing world. The old saying in the golf industry still holds true: what wins on Sunday sells on Monday. If someone were to break out a set of old persimmon woods and win the Masters with them this year, the very next morning I’m going to invest all my money in a company like Louisville Golf who will probably be inundated with orders since their one of the few companies who still makes persimmon woods. The sad truth is that most golfers (probably 99% of them) don’t have a clue what they need when it comes to equipment, they just listen to what the advertisements tell them or worse just buy what the top guys on tour are using. And the other 1% of golfers who actually care about getting the proper equipment go and get fitted, but their still just getting fitted for whatever the name brand companies are selling. If no major brand is selling a single length iron set, then of course nobody is going to be buying them. And no major brand is going to take the risk at mass producing single length sets until they feel the risk will be worth the reward. Single length irons – and I’m talking about a properly engineered set which corrects the issues of lack of distance or trajectory with the long irons – could be the best things every invented, but if the major OEM’s don’t make/advertise/sell them, then nobody will ever know about them. Do you see the dilemma? The ENTIRE THING comes down to OEM’s deciding to put in the time, money and effort to educate the golfing public on the pros of a single length iron set. And until that happens, only these small boutique manufacturers will make them and the concept will fly mostly under the radar. But as soon as it does happen, which I venture may be pretty soon pending the success of Bryson, it will take off like wildfire. The constant selling out of components by the current smaller companies who are making them is already proof that people want them, now it’s time to take the concept to the main stage.

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           Aaron

           Mar 21, 2016 at 2:15 pm

           I completely disagree with your premise that golfers would not change to a SLI set if they truly believed it was better/easier. They would not have to relearn anything! In fact that is what would make the decision to change an easy one… They would only have one setup, and one swing to worry about and that would certainly be easier… I think that there is more to this than is being discussed here. I would really love to hear from an engineer with one of the OEM’s or even to have Tom Wishon chime in on the discussion and offer their take on the evolution or de-evolution of iron sets depending on your viewpoint. There has to be more to the design of clubs in incremental lengths than simply OEM stubbornness.

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             James

             Mar 21, 2016 at 10:34 pm

             Tom Wishon has a forum on his website where he discusses his research of single length clubs in great detail. He is probably one of the most educated club designers in the industry, and he worked on his design for several years before bringing it to market. He did machine testing, player testing, tweaked the designs, tested again, and finally found a set with design features which help to overcome the shortcomings of a single length set (namely lack of trajectory & distance with the longer irons). In this forum thread you will see some of the challenges discussed in converting to a single length set, and many of those challenges are mental rather than physical. So yes, I do think it would be difficult for elite level or tour players who have been playing golf one way for decades, to switch to a new type of set and expect to play well with them without a tremendous amount of work.

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               James

               Mar 21, 2016 at 10:36 pm

               Oops, forgot the link to the Wishon forum: http://wishongolf.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13207

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     JK waff

     Apr 8, 2016 at 2:11 pm

     A Major Oem did release a set of same length irons 6 iron length to be exact. Tommy Armour Irons E.Q.L. in the late 80’s I believe. They too saw Moe Norman and based it on his swing logic at the time I think. Haven’t heard of them? I’m not suprised, this conversation will be the same.

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   Alex

   Mar 17, 2016 at 11:26 am

   I find the best way to counteract extremely upright lie angles is bending them flatter.

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   insider

   Mar 17, 2016 at 8:55 am

   he lead the first round in dubai this year, great round, and tied for 2nd at the australian masters i am very hopeful for him. would love to see him do great. as far as the clubs, whatever works for you/him is ok with me.

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    don d.

    Mar 17, 2016 at 7:40 am

    How many times have you showed up on the first tee and the first thing you do is check out your competition. The next thing you do is check out their sticks. If I saw those clubs and the grinding and drilling and lead tape I would be scared to death. I am very interested to see how this guy does in his pro career. I enjoy listening to him talk golf. Go Bryson.

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    Ed

    Mar 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm

    Google ONE IRON GOLF. Been selling SLI for years

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    Jared

    Mar 16, 2016 at 8:52 pm

    I think the guy is probably a head case. That being said, I wish him nothing but the best. I will take Spieth or McIlroy or Tiger all day against him down the stretch even with them having less superior sticks and 13 different swing planes and Tiger being injured. He is also giving up alot of sponsor money. I do like the concept but in the same vein as the long putter, it seems goofy and not very manly. His clubs, as particular as he seems, look like junk. His last set looked nice. Not sure what happened.

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    joro

    Mar 16, 2016 at 2:11 pm

    Hey, whatever works and what he likes. It is not for anyone to rag on the guy, he has proven to be a good Am. now can he take it to the show.

    This concept was tried by I believe Tommy Armour Golf years ago and it went over like a lead balloon. I think maybe Pelz had something to do with it, who bombed with his own ultra light junk. Not for positive Pelz was the one, but as a club designer he is a loser.

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    Andy

    Mar 16, 2016 at 8:41 am

    I believe that one of the companies he is considering sponsorship from when he goes pro is Cobra. Based off his woods, looks like he is seriously considering them.

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    Charlie

    Mar 15, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    Those USGA conforming?

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      Joe

      Mar 19, 2016 at 6:04 pm

      Yes.

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    PutCurseRepeat

    Mar 15, 2016 at 12:26 am

    Bryson is Lightning McQueen and Edel is Rust*eze.

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    Joe

    Mar 15, 2016 at 12:24 am

    Can’t wait to see him at Augusta, and after he turns pro. We won’t see many players who will copy his clubs, they have to be very expensive and the technical aspects for each individual will take a physicist.

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    299yards

    Mar 14, 2016 at 10:57 pm

    even if he wins the grandslam.. “I’d like to purchase a set of Chambeau’s”, says no one ever..

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      Gorden

      Mar 15, 2016 at 12:18 am

      And it was said no would ever play with heavy clubs with thick grips and swing on a single plane like Moe Norman….until now…..

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      andmaythefranchise

      Mar 16, 2016 at 12:25 pm

      Most likely because that’s not his name.

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    mhendon

    Mar 14, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Anyone relying on their clubs being that specialized is a head case. I see a crash and burn in the very near future.

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      Yup

      Mar 15, 2016 at 3:36 am

      Yupper

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      andmaythefranchise

      Mar 16, 2016 at 12:03 pm

      Bubba is definitely a head case, but winning 2 Masters bodes well for people playing ridiculous equipment.

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        Aaron

        Mar 16, 2016 at 2:33 pm

        What’s ridiculous about Bubba’s equipment? At all…?

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          Justin

          Mar 28, 2016 at 3:10 pm

          He uses about 14 wraps on each grip and each iron is bent waaaaay open. No one but bubba could use them consistently, but hey, whatever works!

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      joro

      Mar 16, 2016 at 2:13 pm

      Your a real bit oh Sunshine. Why the dislike.

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        Tom

        Mar 16, 2016 at 10:05 pm

        The guy is a PING rep.

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    KK

    Mar 14, 2016 at 9:57 pm

    Is that tungsten in the long irons? Craziest set I’ve seen in a while.

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    Walter

    Mar 14, 2016 at 9:49 pm

    This guy would use the E club type 2 jigger

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      Matt H

      Mar 16, 2016 at 2:11 pm

      There’s no need to turn this into a racial thing.

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        Mike

        Mar 19, 2016 at 12:44 pm

        Hahaha. This wins.

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    Ben Hoegan

    Mar 14, 2016 at 9:47 pm

    I threw up a lil

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    Jimmy

    Mar 14, 2016 at 9:19 pm

    I love his clubs, I have the Original Edel Prototypes with black finish and love them. Mine have a very different sole grind with a ton of bounce. I have had them for 4 years and wont be switching till they are worn out.

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    Steve

    Mar 14, 2016 at 8:48 pm

    For all those wondering why no Pro used a swing like Moe Norman your wait is over…..only thing missing is the set up with club way behind ball and the odd way of bringing the club back down pointing at the target after finishing back swing….

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      Brian

      Mar 15, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      His swing, in any form or fashion, is nothing like Moe Norman’s swing. Not even close.

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        Gorden

        Mar 15, 2016 at 6:55 pm

        Closer then anyone out there….Not like the natural golf swing Norman was paid to use but the swing he used when he actually played..

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        Jim Delani

        Mar 15, 2016 at 9:40 pm

        “Not even close”? Are you even looking at these outstanding ball-strikers when they swing? They BOTH have a single axis set-up; they BOTH use over-sized grips, and they BOTH utilize a singe plane swing (although Bryson’s is just a little bit more upright…) These two Golf GENIUSES may have approached the game from a different perspective, but they BOTH figured out the most effective and efficient Golf Swing…The World Of Golf would be so much better if we all could learn how to swing like these champions!!!!

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          Brian

          Mar 15, 2016 at 10:07 pm

          I’m not arguing the talent, as I enjoy both swings, and I agree both are/should be considered golf geniuses. I’m just stating that they do not have any similarities in the golf swing itself, other than over-sized grips. There set up is definitely not the same, nor is the takeaway, nor is impact. Moe Norman sits so much in the golf swing that his head drops about 8 inches from top of the swing to impact. Bryson uses more body rotation, so if anything, his head would have to come up an inch or two at impact. These swings at address may appear similar due to their grip on the club, but as soon as that club moves, there is not one single aspect that is the same.

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            Brian

            Mar 15, 2016 at 10:10 pm

            *Their

            as I would hate to be called out on my grammar.

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        Aaron

        Mar 16, 2016 at 2:37 pm

        Thank you!!! All these comparisons to Moe Norman are so off base it’s ridiculous!

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        Steve

        Mar 19, 2016 at 1:14 am

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLGSlKIRhJo I beg to differ…

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          Aaron

          Mar 19, 2016 at 1:47 pm

          I see more differences than similarities… The setup alone has about 5 significant differences. Check out Wayne D’s break downs of both players and you should see what I mean.

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            Steve

            Mar 19, 2016 at 8:48 pm

            Wayne D come on , ok I see why you (and He) look at a golf swing a lot different then some of us, over analyze to the point of you can’t see the forest for the trees…….. but to satisfy if it works it works…I would take ether one of those swings similar or not….

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    Mat

    Mar 14, 2016 at 7:53 pm

    At 73º, he better have steel-toed shoes…

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      Mat

      Mar 14, 2016 at 7:57 pm

      And this is, by a country mile, the most interesting WITB in the world.

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        JT

        Mar 14, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        I second that.. The undisputed #1 witb..

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    blake

    Mar 14, 2016 at 6:49 pm

    Anyone ever try a single length iron set? The idea intrigues me.

    P.s. did he lose the driver’s weight or just say screw it?

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      Mat

      Mar 15, 2016 at 7:19 am

      Check the forum – I am single length from 8->58°. It works, but you have to understand how and why first – especially how. If you are willing to “get it”, it can be great for your iron game!

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        blake

        Mar 15, 2016 at 2:43 pm

        Thanks man. I just read the article posted today so I guess my idea of hacking down an old set of shafts is out lol.

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    Nic H

    Mar 14, 2016 at 6:28 pm

    Why would he remove the sliding weight from the F6 driver?

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      Mat

      Mar 14, 2016 at 7:55 pm

      Because it’s all hot-melted to the front.

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        Tom

        Mar 14, 2016 at 10:06 pm

        Edgemecated that boy ya did

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    bestgolfer

    Mar 14, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    this witb just made my eyes bleed, no disrespect but what in the world… haha not only single length prototype irons but a 2.5″ tipped driver?? then a 2″ tipped 3 wood???

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    SteveID

    Mar 14, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    Part of the beauty of golf, for me, is its variety. Watching this guy swing shows me he can be extremely consistent, and he is obviously very good. However, I doubt that he will ever be great. He seems very robotic in a game that requires a bit of creativity and the ability to be responsive. He’ll likely have a long career of steady performances, but I don’t think he’ll ever be able to burn up a course and win majors.

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      Mat

      Mar 14, 2016 at 7:51 pm

      Maybe, but he’ll make plenty of money in the process.

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        SteveID

        Mar 14, 2016 at 9:17 pm

        See: “He’ll likely have a long career of steady performances…”

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          JT

          Mar 14, 2016 at 10:04 pm

          He is already great. When was the last time you were medalist qualifier, survived multiple rounds of stroke play and match play, to win the US Amateur? He’s a freak who can hit a driver 340, stick wedges, and drain putts. You must not be talking about the same guy

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            Tom

            Mar 14, 2016 at 10:08 pm

            BAZINGA!

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            SteveID

            Mar 15, 2016 at 11:43 am

            You’re going to categorize a guy with zero tour wins as a “great” golfer? Ok guy…

            To bring up any commenters personal game in an effort to attack their opinion of is a weak approach and shows that you have no counter-argument. You should be ashamed.

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              Jim Delani

              Mar 15, 2016 at 9:05 pm

              RUFKM??? This amateur with “zero tour wins” who just happens to be one of the 5 guys in the HISTORY of Golf to win the NCAA Div I Champs and the US Amateur in the same year AND also won the NCAA Long Driving Contest and you don’t think he’s GREAT! You really need to buy a CLUE!!!!!!

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                SteveID

                Mar 15, 2016 at 11:04 pm

                So if he quits today, he goes down on the list of TOUR greats? Didn’t think so… You must be FKM. Gotta earn your keep on the big stage, which isn’t the US Amateur or the modern day slavery known as the NCAA, it’s the PGA Tour

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                  Tom

                  Mar 15, 2016 at 11:13 pm

                  I think we are more optimistic/ hopeful for DeChambeau’s pro career than you are.
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                  SteveID

                  Mar 15, 2016 at 11:54 pm

                  Fair enough. To be clear, I’m not rooting against the kid. I just gave my thoughts on the matter and I’m not a fan of the swing. He seems like the Anti-Bubba, Anti-Phil on the course. and those are by far two of my favorite players to watch. Naturally, he’ll probably win this weekend. I should put money on that.
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                  Chris

                  Mar 16, 2016 at 7:47 pm

                  Slavery?!

                  If a university program that feeds, provides housing, everyday access to premier golf courses, launch monitors, free apparel, a golf coach, strength and conditioning coaches, a college education, and allows you leave to pursue a professional career is slavery, sign me up!
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                  SteveID

                  Mar 16, 2016 at 10:10 pm

                  Chris, you do make a good point about college golf. College basketball and football on the other hand, is nothing short of criminal.
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                  Ian Muir

                  Mar 17, 2016 at 3:42 am

                  You, steveid, just seem to be closed off to anything that scares you and your own tiny little corner of the world; you really should get out and see more of life. Of course BDeC hasn’t won on the tour – he’s an amateur cutting his teeth. He’ll have a longer career than Spieth.
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                  SteveID

                  Mar 17, 2016 at 9:58 am

                  You, Ian Muir, clearly miss the point. I get that you have an affection for this guy. I started my comments with an analysis on what I thought he was capable of in regards to winning majors. That’s it. Now, I think I’m starting to dislike the guy because of people like you. That’s really not fair to him, but you brought that on him.

                  I can assure you there isn’t anything that scares me in regards to Bryson DeChambeau and his equipment or his swing. Whether this guy does well or not has zero effect on me. So, scared was a poor word choice for you. Again, best of luck to Bryson. Ian, for passing judgement on me and my world from behind a keyboard, I wish you zero fairways and zero GIR’s.
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    Poppa

    Mar 14, 2016 at 5:22 pm

    Get that KING Hybrid to retail please

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    DanP

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:56 pm

    My arms hurt just thinking about 70x 2.5 tipped.

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    Rich

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:38 pm

    70 gram x flex shaft tipped 2.5 inches in his driver! What a BEAST!

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    Randall

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    Looks like he is about to sign with Cobra. What ball was he playing?

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    Scott R

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:30 pm

    Crazy setup….Dude def has mental issues..haha. He is the epitome is “Play what works”. Good luck to him

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    Kourt

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    Looks like hes 4 degrees more upright than his last witb. used to be 69 degree lie angle now 73! Thats more upright than most putters. Not sure how he doesn’t shank the crap out of it.

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      Brian

      Mar 15, 2016 at 4:39 pm

      He runs his left hand grip through the middle of his palm instead of under the heel pad. that’s about a 4 degree difference.

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        Kourt

        Mar 17, 2016 at 8:09 pm

        Yeah but changing lie angle 4 degrees in less than 3 months seems like an extreme change for someone with so much success last year. Not saying its wrong just seems extreme.

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    Steve

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    Love this custom setup. If he sticks with the SLI after turning pro, he’ll give that technology some new found attention.

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    Travis

    Mar 14, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    Dude is mental! Love it!

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    golfraven

    Mar 14, 2016 at 3:42 pm

    Respect to him that he is still true to his Edel set on tour.

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      Tom

      Mar 14, 2016 at 10:11 pm

      And the fact that ninety percent of the readers on here are googling Edel right now

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      Agelast Ahole

      Apr 1, 2016 at 6:14 am

      He will sell out and drop Edel. This kid has sell out written all over him.

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        Nick

        Apr 10, 2016 at 3:53 pm

        I don’t know if I would consider it to necessarily be “selling out”, Edel can’t afford to compete with what other major brands are willing to pay him once he turns pro next week. Remember this is a business and he is in this business to make money. That’s the sad nature of the sport, if every player put the gear over the paycheck you would see a lot of them signed to much smaller companies like Edel.

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